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'At the bottom of my heart I was a loyal shieldbearer for Adolf Hitler; my political conviction would have been National Socialist.'
Background
According to Hendin
('Command Responsibility and Superior Orders in the 20th
Century - A Century of Evolution') Field Marshal Keitel
(as Chief of the High Command of the Armed Forces)
issued this order in September 1941 (the order was
received directly from Adolf Hitler) to his subordinate
Field Marshall List (Commander in Chief, 12th Army and
Armed Forces Commander, Southeast) to quell insurgent
forces in the German occupied territories:
The US Tribunal found that a commander of an
occupied territory was accountable for the conduct of
all of the units under his command. This command
included both military command authority the necessary
executive authority over the occupied territory. Under
Council Control Order No. 10 it was determined that as a
fundamental principle, the territorial commander was
accountable for the crimes of his subordinates and for
the prevention of war crimes within his command. It also
found that a plea of 'no knowledge' was inadmissible, as
was a lack of knowledge of information supplied to the
commander's headquarters.'
The Allegations Against Keitel
Field
Marshal Keitel, as Chief of the High Command of the
Armed Forces was bought before the US Military Tribunal
in Nuremberg on 19th October, 1945. When he was handed
his indictment he believed that it was a foregone
conclusion that he would be found guilty. He did however
plead 'not guilty' to the allegations. His defence
counsel was Dr. Otto Nelte, a former industrial lawyer
from Siegburg, Germany. In Keitel's defence, Dr. Nelte
did not ask for his acquittal. Rather, he pleaded:
'...only for his client's tragic dilemma to be
recognised and understood.' Nelte submitted that
Keitel: '...was fighting to save not his neck but his
face' and that his: 'obedience and loyalty had
been his only guiding principles.'
This
background is precised from 'The Nixkor Project'
(available at: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/tgmwc/)
which is fully acknowledged.
Keitel was Chief
of Staff to the Minister of War (Von Blomberg) from 1935
to 4th February, 1938. On that day Hitler took command
of all the Armed Forces with Keitel becoming Chief of
the High Command of the Armed Forces, although Keitel
did not have command authority over the three Wehrmacht
branches which enjoyed direct access to the Supreme
Commander.
The charge against Keitel of
'Crimes against Peace' alleged that Keitel attended the
Schuschnigg conference in February, 1938 with two other
generals. Hitler and Keitel pressured Austria with false
rumors, broadcasts, and troop maneuvers. When
Schuschnigg called his plebiscite Keitel briefed Hitler
and Hitler issued 'Case Otto' which Keitel
initialed.
In late April, 1938 Hitler and
Keitel conspired to provoke an attack on Czechoslovakia.
Keitel signed many directives and memoranda on 'Fall
Gruen' including the directive of 30th May (containing
Hitler's statement):'It is my unalterable decision to
smash Czechoslovakia by military action in the near
future.'
Keitel initialed Hitler's
directive for the attack on Czechoslovakia and he issued
two supplements. The second supplement stated:
On 23rd May, 1939 when Hitler announced his
decision: 'to attack Poland at the first suitable
opportunity' Keitel was present. The invasion of
Norway and Denmark was discussed by Keitel with Hitler,
Jodl, and Raeder. He issued a further directive on 1st
December, 1940 which he kept under his direct and
personal guidance. On 23rd May, 1939 Hitler announced
that he would ignore the neutrality of Belgium and the
Netherlands and Keitel signed orders for these
attacks.
Planning for the attacks on Greece
and Yugoslavia occured in November, 1940. On 18th March,
1941 Keitel overheard Hitler tell Raeder that a complete
occupation of Greece was a prerequisite to settlement.
He also heard Hitler make a decree on 27th March that
the destruction of Yugoslavia should take place with
'unmerciful harshness.'
Keitel testified
that he opposed the invasion of the Soviet Union for
military reasons (as it would constitute a violation of
the Non-aggression Pact). He did however 'Case
Barbarossa' signed by Hitler on 18th December, 1940 and
he attended a further discussion with Hitler on 3rd
February, 1941. Keitel's supplement of 13th March
established the relationship between the military and
political officers. He issued his timetable for the
invasion on 6th June, 1941 and was present at the
briefing of 14th June when the generals gave their final
reports before attack. He appointed Jodl and Warlimont
as representatives to Rosenberg on matters concerning
the Eastern Territories. On 16th June he directed all
army units to carry out the economic directives issued
by Goering in the so-called 'Green Folder' for the
exploitation of Russian territory, food, and raw
materials.
The following is a rather lengthy extract of the US
Tribunal's case against Field Marshall Keitel in which
the accused gave evidence on the 4th April, 1946 (Day
99) in respect to his alleged activities in Austria,
Czechoslovakia, Poland, Norway, Low Countries, Greece
and Yugoslavia, USSR, treatment of PW, Hostages and
reprisals. This extract of Day 99 of the trial which
relates to the issues of 'Superior Orders' has been
extracted from the British Attorney-General's Stationery
Office (London, 1946). Although lengthy, it is an
historical snapshot of one days session of the US
Tribunal and the depth of questioning that did
occur.
Dr. Otto Nelte was Keitel's appointed
Defence Counsel.
Day 99 - Field Marshall Keitel is Examined by his
Defence Counsel Dr. Nelte
Dr. Nelte
Leading - Q. Yesterday we discussed last the meeting on
21st April between you, Hitler, and Adjutant Schmundt. I
am again having Document 388-PS brought to you and ask
you to answer the following question: Was this not a
conference of the kind which you said yesterday in
principle did not take place?
A. To a certain
extent it is true that I was called in and, to my
complete surprise, heard suggestions about preparations
for war against Czechoslovakia. This happened in a very
short interview, before one of Hitler's departures for
Berchtesgaden. I do not recall saying anything beyond
asking one question, and then, after being told of these
surprising suggestions, I went home.
Q. What
happened then, so far as you were concerned?
A. My reflections during the first hour after that
conference were that this operation could not be carried
out by the Army in view of the military strength which I
knew to be ours at that time. I then comforted myself
with the thought that nothing could be planned for the
immediate future. The following day I discussed the
matter with the Chief of the Operations Staff, General
Jodl. I never received any minutes of this discussion,
nor any record. The outcome of our deliberations was
"to leave things alone because there was plenty of
time, and because any such action was, for military
reasons, out of the question at that moment. I also
explained to Jodl that the introductory words had been:
"It is not my intention to undertake aggressive
action against Czechoslovakia in the near future."
Then, in the following weeks, we started theoretical and
careful deliberations; but without consulting the
various branches of the Armed Forces, because we did not
consider that we had the authority to do so. In the
following months, as can be seen from the Schmundt file,
the army adjutants continuously asked innumerable
detailed questions regarding the strength of divisions,
and so on. These questions were answered by the Armed
Forces Operations Staff to the best of their knowledge.
Q. I believe we can shorten this
considerably, Marshal, however important your
explanations are. The decisive point now is - please
take the document in front of you and compare the draft
which you finally made on orders from Obersalzberg, and
tell me what happened after that.
A. Yes. About
four weeks after I had been given this job, I sent to
Obersalzberg a draft of a directive for the preparatory
measures. In reply I was informed that Hitler himself
would come to Berlin to speak with the Commander-in-
Chief. He came to Berlin at the end of May, and I was
present at the conference with General von Brauchitsch.
In this conference the basic plan was changed
altogether, for Hitler expressed the intention to take
military action against Czechoslovakia in the very near
future. The reason why he changed his mind was because
Czecho-slovakia - I believe on 20th or 21st May - had
ordered general mobilisation, and Hitler at that time
declared this could only have been directed against us.
Military preparations had not been made by Germany. This
was the reason for the complete change of his
intentions, which he communicated orally to the
Commander-in- Chief of the Army; and he ordered him to
begin preparations at once. This explains the changes in
the directive which was then issued, in which the basic
idea is expressed in the words: "It is my
irrevocable decision to take military action against
Czechoslovakia in the near future."
Q.
War against Czechoslovakia was avoided as a result of
the Munich Agreement. What did you and the other
generals think of this agreement?
A. We were
extremely glad that it had not come to a military
operation, because throughout the time of preparation we
had always been of the opinion that our means of attack
against the frontier fortifications of Czechoslovakia
were inadequate. From a purely military point of view we
were not strong enough to stage an attack which would
involve the piercing of the frontier fortifications; we
lacked material for such an attack. Consequently we were
extremely glad that a peaceful political solution had
been reached.
Q. What effect did this
agreement have on the generals, regarding Hitler's
prestige?
A. I believe I may say that it
greatly increased Hitler's prestige with them. We
recognised that, on the one hand, military means and
military preparations had not been neglected and that on
the other hand a solution had been found which we had
not expected and for which we were extremely thankful.
Q. Is it not amazing that three weeks after
the Munich Agreement which had been so welcomed by
everyone, including the generals, Hitler should have
given instructions for the occupation of the remainder
of Czechoslovakia?
A. I believe that
recently Marshal Goering enlarged on this question in
the course of his examination. My impression, as I
remember it, is that Hitler told me at that time that he
did not believe that Czechoslovakia would be able to
overcome the loss of the Sudeten-German territories with
their strong fortifications; and, moreover, he was
concerned about the close relations then existing
between Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union, and thought
that Czechoslovakia could and perhaps would become a
military and strategic menace. These were the military
reasons which were given to me.
Q. Did no
one point out to Hitler the great danger of solving the
problem of the remainder of Czechoslovakia by force of
arms - the danger that other powers, that is England and
France, would be antagonised?
A. I was not
informed of the last conversation in Munich between the
British Prime Minister Chamberlain and the Fuehrer.
However, I regarded this question, as far as its further
treatment was concerned, as a political one, and
consequently I did not raise any objections, if I may so
express myself, especially as the military preparations
decided on before the Munich meeting were considerably
cut down. Whenever the political question was raised,
the Fuehrer refused to discuss it.
Q. In
connection with this question of Czechoslovakia, I
should like to mention Lt.-Colonel Koechling, who was
described by the prosecution as the liaison man with
Henlein. Was the Wehrmacht or the O.K.W. engaged in this
matter?
A. Koechling's job remained unknown
to me, though it was I who nominated him. Hitler asked
me if an officer was available for a special mission,
and if so he should report to me. After I dispatched
Lt.-Colonel Koechling from Berlin I neither saw nor
spoke to him again. I do know, however, that, as I heard
later, he was with Henlein as military adviser.
Q. The prosecution has pointed out that you were
present at the visit of Minister President Tiso in
March, 1939, as well as at the visit of President Hacha,
and from this it was deduced that you took part in the
political discussions which then took place. What role
did you play on these occasions?
A. It is
true that on the occasion of such visits of foreign
statesmen I was nearly always present in the Reich
Chancellery or at the reception, but I never took part
in the actual discussions of political questions. I was
present at the reception and considered that I should
take part in the discussions, in my position as high
ranking representative of the Wehrmacht. But in every
case that I can recall I was dismissed with thanks and
waited in the ante-chamber in case I should be needed. I
can positively say that I did not speak a word to either
Tiso or President Hacha on that night nor did I take
part in Hitler's direct discussions with these men. May
I add that on the night of President Hacha's visit I had
to be present in the Reich Chancellery, because during
that night the High Command of the Army had to be
instructed as to how the entry into Czechoslovakia which
had been prepared was to be carried out. Q. In this
connection I wish to confirm just one point, since I
assume this has already been made clear by Reich Marshal
Goering's testimony. You never spoke to President Hacha
of a possible bombing of Prague, should he not see fit
to sign?
A. No.
Q. We come now to
the case of Poland. The prosecution accuses you of
having participated in the planning and preparation for
military action against this country too, and of having
assisted in carrying it out. Would you state in brief
your basic attitude towards these Eastern problems?
A. The question concerning the problem of Danzig
and the Corridor were known to me. I also knew that
political discussions and negotiations with regard to
these questions were pending. The case for the attack on
Poland, which in the course of time had to be and was
prepared, was, of course, closely connected with these
problems. I was not concerned with political matters,
but was of the opinion that military preparations, that
is, military pressure, if I may call it such, would play
the same kind of role as, in my opinion, it had played
at Munich. I did not believe that the matter would be
brought to an end without such preparations.
Q. Could not this question have been solved by direct
negotiations?
A. That is hard for me to say,
although I know that several discussions took place
about the Danzig question as well as about a solution of
the Corridor problem. I recall a remark of Hitler's that
impressed me at the time, when he said that he deplored
Marshal Pilsudski's death, because he believed he had
reached or could have reached an agreement with this
statesman. Hitler made this statement in my presence.
Q. The prosecution had stated that as early
as the autumn of 1938, Hitler was busy with the question
of a war against Poland. Did you take any part in
this?
A. No. This I cannot recall. I am
inclined to believe that there were, even then, signs
that this was not the case. At that time I accompanied
Hitler on an extensive tour of inspection of the Eastern
fortifications. We covered the entire front from
Pomerania through the Oder-Warthe Marshland as far as
Breslau in order to inspect the individual frontier
fortifications against Poland. The question of
fortifications in East Prussia was thoroughly discussed
at that time. When I consider these discussions today, I
can only assume that they were possibly connected with
the Danzig and Corridor problem, and that Hitler simply
wanted to find out whether these Eastern fortifications
had sufficient defensive strength should that problem
eventually lead to war with Poland.
Q. When
were the preparations made for the occupation of Danzig?
A. I believe that as early as the late
autumn of 1938 orders were issued that Danzig be
occupied at a favourable moment by a surprise attack
from East Prussia. That is all I know about it.
Q. Was the possibility of war against Poland
discussed in this connection?
A. Yes, and it
was apparently in this connection that the possibilities
of frontier defences were examined, but I do not recall
any kind of preparation, of military preparation, at
that time, indeed there was none, Apart from that
against a surprise attack from East Prussia.
Q. If I remember rightly you once told me, when we
discussed this question, that Danzig was to be occupied
only if this would not lead to a war with Poland.
A. Yes, that is so. This statement was made time
and again, that this occupation of, or the surprise
attack on Danzig was only to be carried out if it was
certain that it would not lead to war.
Q.
When did this view change?
A. I believe
Poland's refusal to discuss any kind of solution of the
Danzig question was apparently the reason for further
deliberations and steps.
Q. The prosecution
-
A. I might perhaps add that, generally
speaking, after Munich the situation in regard to the
Eastern problem too was viewed differently, possibly or,
as I think, probably, from this point of view. The
problem of Czechoslovakia had been solved satisfactorily
without a shot. This would perhaps also be possible with
regard to the other German problems in the East. I also
believe I remember Hitler saying that he did not think
the Western Powers, particularly England, would be
interested in Germany's Eastern problem, and would
rather act as mediators than raise any objections.
Q. Now this is Document C-102, the "Case
Weiss." According to this, a directive was issued
on 3rd April, 1939.
A. As to this document:
it begins by stating that this directive was intended to
replace the regular annual instructions of the Armed
Forces regarding possible preparations for mobilisation
- that it was a further elaboration of details known to
us from the instructions which had been issued in 1937-8
and which were issued every year. In fact, however, at
or shortly before that time Hitler had, in my presence,
directly instructed the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
to make strategic and operative preparations for an
attack and war on Poland. I then issued this directive,
as can be seen from the document. It states that the
Fuehrer had already ordered the following: that
everything should be worked out by the O.K.H. of the
Army by 1st September, 1939, and that, after this, a
time table should be drawn up. This directive was signed
by me at that time.
Q. What was your attitude
and that of the other generals towards this war?
A. I must say that at this time, as in the case of
the preparations against Czechoslovakia, both the High
Command of the Army and the generals to whom I spoke,
and I, too, were opposed to the idea of waging a war
against Poland. We did not want this war, but, of
course, we immediately began to carry out the orders
given, at least as far as the elaboration by the General
Staff was concerned. Our justification was that the
military means which to our knowledge were at our
disposal, that is to say, the divisions, their
equipment, their armament, and their absolutely
inadequate supply of munitions kept reminding us as
soldiers that we were not ready to wage a war.
Q. Do you mean to say that, in your deliberations,
it was only the military viewpoint that influenced your
attitude?
A. Yes. I must admit that. I did
not concern myself with the political problems but only
with the question: Can we or can we not?
Q.
Now, on 23rd May, 1939, there was a conference at which
Hitler addressed the generals. You know this address?
What was the reason for it and what did it contain?
A. I saw the notes on it for the first time
in the course of my interrogations here. It reminded me
of the situation at that time. The purpose of this
address was to show the generals that what was being
done was justified; to remove their misgivings; and
finally to point out that the last word was not yet
spoken, and that political negotiations about these
matters still could and perhaps would change the
situation. The address was, in fact, intended simply to
give encouragement.
Q. Were you at that time
of the opinion that war would actually break out?
A. No, at that time I believed that war would not
break out, that in view of the military preparations
ordered, negotiations would take place again and a
solution be found. Our considerations were always
dominated by a military viewpoint. We generals believed
that France - and, to a lesser extent, England, in view
of her mutual assistance pact with Poland - would
intervene and that in general we did not have the
defensive means to cope with such an event. For this
very reason I personally was always convinced that there
would be no war because we could not wage a war against
Poland if France attacked us in the West.
Q.
Now, what was your opinion of the situation after the
speech of 22nd August, 1939?
A. This speech,
made at the end of August, was addressed to the generals
assembled at Obersalzberg, the Commanders-in- Chief of
the troops in the East. When Hitler, towards the end of
this speech, declared that a pact had been concluded
with the Soviet Union, I was firmly convinced that there
would be no war, because I believed that these
conditions constituted a basis for negotiation and that
Poland would not be recalcitrant. I also believed that
now a basis for negotiations had been found although
Hitler said in this speech, a copy of which I read here
for the first time from notes, that all preparations had
been made, and that it was intended to put them into
execution.
Q. Did you know that England
actually attempted to act as intermediary?
A. No, I knew nothing of these matters. A thing which
was very surprising to me was that on one of those days
which have been discussed here repeatedly, namely on
24th or 25th August, only a few days after the
conference at Obersalzberg, I was suddenly called to
Hitler at the Reich Chancellery and his only words were
"Stop everything at once, fetch Brauchitsch
immediately. I need time for negotiations." I
believe that after these few words I was dismissed.
Q. What followed?
A. I at once
rang up the Commander-in-Chief of the Army, Brauchitsch,
and passed on the order, and he was called to the
Fuehrer. Everything was stopped and all decisions on
possible military action were suspended, first without
any time limit, but on the following day for a certain
limited period. I think, from what we can calculate
today, the period was five days.
Q. Did you
know of the so-called minimum demands on Poland?
A. I believe that I read them in the Reich
Chancellery, that Hitler himself showed them to me and
that I received a copy.
Q. As you saw them,
I would like to ask whether you considered these demands
to be serious?
A. At that time I was never
in the Reich Chancellery for more than a few minutes,
and as a soldier I naturally believed that these were
perfectly serious demands.
Q. Was there any
talk at that time of border incidents?
A.
No. This question of border incidents was, too,
extensively discussed with me here in my interrogations,
but in the few discussions we had at the Reich
Chancellery in those days there was no discussion at all
of this question.
Q. I now show you Document
795-PS, which consists of notes dealing with the Polish
uniforms for Heydrich.
A. May I add ...
Q. Please do.
A. ... namely, that on
30th August, the day for the attack was again postponed
for twenty-four hours. For this reason Brauchitsch and I
were again called to the Reich Chancellery and to my
recollection the reason given was that a Polish
plenipotentiary was expected. Everything was to be
postponed for twenty-four hours. Then there were further
changes in the military instructions.
This
document deals with Polish uniforms for border incidents
or for some sort of illegal actions. It has been shown
to me. It concerns subsequent notes made by Canaris of a
conversation he had with me. He told me at that time
that he was to make available a few Polish uniforms.
This order had been communicated to him by the Fuehrer
through an adjutant. I asked: "For what
purpose?" We both agreed that this was intended for
some illegal action. If I remember rightly I told him at
that time that I did not expect much from it and that he
had better have nothing to do with it. We then had a
short discussion about Dirschau, which was also to be
taken by a surprise attack by the Wehrmacht. That is all
I heard of it. I believe I told Canaris he could dodge
the issue by saying that he had no Polish uniforms - he
could simply say he had none - and the matter would be
settled.
Q. You know, of course, that this
matter was connected with the subsequent attack on the
radio station at Gleiwitz. Do you know anything of this
incident?
A. This incident, this action has
for the first time come to my knowledge here through the
testimony of witnesses. I never found out who was
charged to carry out such things and I knew nothing of
the raid on the radio station at Gleiwitz until I heard
the statements made here before this Tribunal. Neither
do I recall having heard at that time that such an
incident had occurred.
Q. Did you know of
America's and Italy's efforts after 1st September, 1939,
to end the war in one way or another?
A. I
knew nothing at all of the political discussions that
took place in those days from 24th August to the end of
that month or the beginning of September. I never knew
anything about the visit of one Mr. Dahlerus. I knew
nothing of London's intervention. I only remember that,
whilst in the Reich Chancellery for a short while, I met
Hitler and he said, "Do not disturb me now, I am
writing a letter to Daladier." This must have been
in the first days of September. Neither I nor, to my
knowledge, any of the other generals ever knew anything
about the matters I heard of here and of the further
steps that were taken after 1st September. Nothing at
all.
Q. What did you say in the Fuehrer's
train to Canaris and Lahousen on 14th September, that is
shortly before the attack on Warsaw, with regard to the
so-termed political "Flurbereinigung" (House
cleaning)?
A. I have been interrogated here
about this point, but I could not recall this visit at
all. However, it appeared, from Lahousen's testimony,
that I had repeated what Hitler had said and had passed
on these orders in his words. I know that the
Commander-in-Chief of the Army who then directed the
military operations in Poland had, at the daily
conferences, already complained about attacks by police
in occupied Polish territory. I can only say that I
apparently repeated what had been said about these
things in my presence by Hitler and Brauchitsch. I can
make no statements regarding details. I might add that,
to my recollection, the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
at that time often stated that as long as he had the
executive power in the occupied territories he would
under no circumstances tolerate any other authority in
those territories; and at his own request he was
relieved of his responsibility for Poland in October. I
therefore believe that the statements the witness made
from memory or on the strength of notes are not quite
correct. Q. We come now to the question of Norway. Did
you know that in October, 1939, Germany had given an
assurance of neutrality to Denmark and Norway?
A. Yes, I knew that.
Q. Were you and
the O.K.W., or were you, personally, consulted about
declarations of neutrality in this or other cases?
A. No.
Q. Were you informed of
them?
A. No, we were not informed either.
These were discussions referring to foreign policy of
which we soldiers were not informed.
Q. You
mean you were not informed officially. But you, as one
who read newspapers, knew of them?
A. Yes.
Q. Good. Before our discussion about the
problem of aggressive war I asked you a question which,
in order to save time, I would rather not have to
repeat. However, it seems to me that the question I put
to you in order to get your opinion on aggressive war,
must be asked again in this connection because an attack
on a neutral country, a country which had been given a
guarantee, was bound to cause particular scruples on the
part of people who have to do with this - the waging of
war. Therefore, I put this question to you again, in
this particular connection, and ask you to say what was
your and the soldiers' reaction to it.
A. In
this connection, I must say we were already at war.
There was a state of war between England and France and
Germany. It would not be right for me to say that I
interfered in the least with these matters, but I
regarded them rather as political matters and, as a
soldier, I held the opinion that preparations for a
military action against Norway and Denmark did not yet
mean the real thing, that these preparations would very
obviously take months if such an action was to
materialise at all, and that, in the meantime, the
situation might change. It was this train of thought
which caused me not to take any steps in this matter. I
considered it impossible to make strategic preparations
at that time, and I therefore took no stand on the
question of intervention in Norway and Denmark, and left
these things to those who were concerned with political
matters. I cannot put it any other way.
Q.
When did the preparations for this action start?
A. I think the first discussion took place as
early as October, 1939, but the first directives were
issued only in January 1940, that is to say, several
months later. In connection with the discussions before
this Tribunal and with the information given by Reich
Marshal Goering in his statements, I also remember that
one day I was ordered to summon Grand Admiral Raeder to
the Fuehrer, who wanted to discuss with him questions
regarding sea warfare in the Bay of Heligoland and in
the Atlantic Ocean and the dangers we would encounter in
waging war in this area. Then Hitler ordered me to call
together a special staff which was to study all these
problems from the viewpoint of sea, air and land warfare
- I remembered this also upon seeing the documents
produced here. This special staff dispensed with my
personal assistance. Hitler said at the time that he
himself would furnish tasks for this staff. These were,
I believe, the military considerations in the months
from 1939 to the beginning of 1940.
Q. In
this connection I should only like to know one further
thing, and that is whether you had any conversation with
Quisling at this stage of the preliminary measures?
A. No, I saw Quisling neither before nor
after the Norway campaign; I saw him for the first time
approximately one or two years later. There were no
connections between us, not even any kind of
transmission of information. I already stated in a
preliminary interrogation that by order of Hitler I sent
an officer, I believe it was Colonel Pieckenboeck, to
Copenhagen for conferences with the Norwegians. I did
not know Quisling.
Q. As to the war in the
West, there is once more in the foreground the question
of violation of neutrality, in the case of Luxembourg,
Belgium and Holland. Did you know that these three
countries bad been given assurances regarding the
inviolability of their neutrality?
A. Yes, I
knew and also was told that at that time.
Q.
I do not want to ask the same questions as in the case
of Norway and Denmark, but I should like to ask: Did you
consider these assurances by Hitler to be honest?
A. When I remember the situation as it was then, I
did at that time believe, when I learned of these
things, that there was no intention of bringing any
other State into the war. At any rate, I had no reason,
no justification to assume the opposite, namely that
this was intended as a deception.
Q. After
the conclusion of the Polish campaign did you still
believe that there was any possibility of terminating or
localising the war?
A. Yes, I did believe
this. My view was strengthened by the Reichstag speech
after the Polish war, in which allusions were made which
convinced me that political discussions about this
question were going on, above all, with England, and
because Hitler had said to me time and again, whenever
these questions were brought up, "The West is
actually not interested in these Eastern problems of
Germany." This was the phrase he always used to
calm people, namely that the Western Powers were not
interested in these problems. Furthermore, seen from a
purely military point of view, it must be added that we
soldiers had, of course, always expected an attack by
the Western Powers, that is to say, France, during the
Polish campaign and were very surprised that in the
West, apart from some skirmishes between the Maginot
Line and the Western Wall, nothing had actually
happened, though we had - this I know for certain -
along the whole Western front from the Dutch border to
Basel only five divisions, apart from the small forces
manning the fortifications of the Western Wall. Thus,
from a purely military point of view, a French attack
during the Polish campaign would have encountered only a
military screen, not a real defence. Since nothing of
this sort happened, we soldiers thought of course that
the Western Powers had no serious intentions, because
they did not take advantage of the extremely favourable
situation for military operations, and did not undertake
anything serious against us during the three to four
weeks when all the German fighting formations were
employed in the East. This also strengthened our views
as to what the attitude of the Western Powers would
probably be in the future.
Q. What were
Hitler's plans for the West?
A. I do not
quite understand the question.
Q. What were
Hitler's plans for the West?
A. During the
last phase of the Polish campaign, he had already
transferred all unnecessary forces to the West, in case
that at any time something might happen there. He had,
however, at the same time, told me that he intended to
throw his forces as swiftly as possible from the East to
the West, and if possible attack in the West in the
winter of 1939-40.
Q. Did these plans include
attacks on and marching through Luxembourg, Belgium, and
Holland.
A. Not originally. At first, if I
may speak as a soldier, the concentration of troops in
the West was to be merely a security measure, that is, a
thorough strengthening of the frontiers, particularly,
of course, where there were only border posts.
Accordingly, as early as at the end of September and the
beginning of October, some troops were moved from the
East to the West for security purposes only, without any
particular concentration.
Q. What did the
military leaders know about Belgium's and Holland's
attitude?
A. Their views, naturally, changed
several times, in the course of the winter. In the
autumn of 1939 - I can only speak for myself, and there
may be other opinions on this matter - I was convinced
that Belgium wanted to keep out of the war under any
circumstances, and would do anything she could to
preserve her neutrality. On the other hand, we received,
through close connections between the Belgium and
Italian royal houses, a number of reports that sounded
very threatening. I had no way of finding out whether
they were true, but we learned of them and they
indicated that Belgium was being submitted to strong
pressure to give up her neutrality. As for Holland, all
we knew at that time was that there were general staff
relations between her and England. But then of course,
in the months from October to May, 1940, the situation
changed considerably, and the tension varied greatly.
From the purely military point of view, we knew one
thing: that all the French swift units, that is
motorised units, were concentrated on the Belgian-French
border, and we interpreted this measure as meaning that
preparations were being made for crossing through
Belgium at any time with these units and for taking a
stand there on the borders of the Ruhr district. I think
I should omit details here, because they are not
important for the further developments, being of a
purely operative and strategic nature.
Q.
Were there differences of opinion between the generals
and Hitler with reference to the attack in the West,
which would have to take place through this neutral
territory?
A. I must say that at that time
one of the most serious crises in the whole war arose,
because of the opinions held by a number of generals,
including the Commander-in-Chief, von Brauchitsch, his
Chief of General Staff, and myself. We wanted at all
costs to attempt to prevent an attack in the West, but
Hitler had already planned this for the winter. There
were various reasons for our opinions: one was the
difficulty of transporting the Eastern Army to the West;
another, which I am bound to mention, was that we
believed at that time, perhaps more from the political
point of view, that if we did not attack, the
possibility of a peaceful solution might still be
feasible. We considered that between then and the spring
many political changes might well take place. Then
again, as soldiers, we were decidedly against the waging
of a winter war, in view of the short days and long
nights, always a great hindrance to military operations.
To Hitler's objection that the French motorised forces
might march through Belgium at any time and then stand
before the Ruhr district, we answered that we were equal
to such a situation in a war of movement; we were a
match for it; that was our view. I may say here that
this situation led to a very serious crisis between
Hitler and the Commander-in- Chief of the Army and also
myself, because I held this view, one which Hitler
vigorously rejected on the grounds that it was
strategically wrong. In our talks he accused me in the
sharpest manner, of conspiring against him with the
generals of the Army and strengthening them in their
opposition to his views. I must here state that I then
asked to be relieved immediately of my post and given
another, because I was greatly offended, and felt that
under these circumstances the confidence between Hitler
and myself had been completely destroyed. I may add that
my relations with the Commander-in-Chief of the Army
also suffered greatly in this matter, but the idea of my
discharge and employment elsewhere was sharply rejected.
It has already been discussed here; I need not go into
it any further. But this break in confidence was never
to be mended. In the case of Norway, there was a similar
conflict of views. General Jodl's diary refers to it as
a "serious crisis." I shall not go into this
in detail, either.
Q. What was the motive of Hitler's speech to the
Commanders- in-Chief on 23rd November, 1939, in the
Reich Chancellery?
A. I can say that this
was very closely connected with the crisis between
Hitler and the generals which I have just discussed. He
called a meeting of the generals on that occasion to
present and substantiate his views, and we knew it was
his intention to bring about a change in their attitude.
In the notes on this speech, we see that individual
persons were more than once directly and sharply
rebuked. Those who had spoken against this attack in the
West repeated their reasons for so doing. Moreover, he
wanted to state his irrevocable intention to carry out
this aggressive action in the West that very winter,
because this - in his view - was the only strategic
solution, as every moment's delay was to the enemy's
advantage. In other words, at that time, he no longer
counted on any other solution than resort to force of
arms.
Q. When, then, was the decision made to
advance through Belgium and Holland?
A. The
preparations for such a march through and attack on
Belgium and Holland had already been made, but Hitler
delayed his decision actually to carry out such a big
attack or to violate the neutrality of these countries,
and remained undecided until the spring of 1940. This
delay was, obviously, caused by all sorts of political
reasons, and perhaps also because he thought that the
problem might be solved automatically if the enemy
invaded Belgium or if the mobile French troops crossed
the frontier. I can only state that the decision for the
carrying out of this plan was withheld until the very
last moment and the order was given only just before it
was to be executed. I believe that there was also one
other factor in this, a factor which I have already
mentioned, namely the relationship between the royal
houses of Italy and Belgium. Hitler always surrounded
his decisions with secrecy, for he was obviously afraid
that they might become known through this relationship.
(A recess was taken.)
THE PRESIDENT: Dr.
Nelte, the Tribunal will be glad if, when you refer to
Czechoslovakia or any other State you will refer to it
by its proper name - you and the defendants and other
witnesses.
DR. NELTE: Mr. President, the
defendant Keitel wishes to make a slight correction in
the statement which he made earlier in answer to my
question regarding the occupation in the West during the
Polish campaign.
THE PRESIDENT: Very well.
KEITEL: I said earlier that in the West
during the war against Poland, there were five
divisions. I must rectify that statement. I had mixed
that up with the year 1938. In 1939 there were
approximately twenty divisions, including the reserves
in the Rhineland and in the West districts behind the
lines. Therefore, the statement I made was made
inadvertently and was a mistake.
Q. Now we
come to the Balkans wars. The prosecution, with
reference to the war against Greece and Yugoslavia, has
accused you of having co-operated in the preparation,
planning and above all in the carrying out of those
wars. What is your attitude to this?
A. We
were rushed into the war against Greece and against
Yugoslavia in the spring of 1941 to our complete
surprise and without having made any plans. This applies
especially to Greece. I accompanied Hitler during his
journey through France for the meetings with Marshal
Petain and with Franco on the Spanish border, and during
that journey we had our first news regarding the
intention of Italy to attack Greece. The journey to
Florence was immediately decided upon, and upon arrival
in Florence, we received Mussolini's statement, which
has already been mentioned by Reich Marshal Goering;
namely, that the attack against Greece had already
begun. I can say from my own personal knowledge that
Hitler was extremely disgusted with this development and
the dragging of the Balkans into the war, and that only
the fact that Italy was an ally prevented a break with
Mussolini. I never knew of any intentions to wage war
against Greece.
Q. Was there any necessity
for Germany to enter into that war or how did that come
about?
A. At first, the necessity did not
exist, but during the early months - October-November -
of that campaign, it soon became clear that the Italian
position in this war had become extremely precarious.
Therefore, as early as November or December, there were
calls on the part of Mussolini for help, calls to assist
him in some form or other. Apart from that, seen from
the military point of view, it was clear, of course,
that for the entire military position in the war, the
defeat of Italy in the Balkans would have had
considerable and very serious consequences. Therefore,
assistance of some sort had to be improvised. I think a
mountain division was to be brought in, but that was
technically impossible, since there were no unloading
facilities. Then another solution was attempted by means
of air transport.
Q. At the time, however,
when improvisations ceased, we come to the operation
presented by the prosecution, and called
"Marita." When was that operation conceived?
A. The war in Greece and Albania had begun
to reach a state of stagnation because of winter
conditions. During that time, plans were conceived to
avoid a catastrophe for Italy, by bringing in against
Greece certain forces from the North for an attack to
relieve the pressure, for such I must call it. That
would, of course, and did, take several months. May I
just explain that at that time the idea of a march
through Yugoslavia, or even the suggestion that forces
should be brought in through that country was definitely
turned down by Hitler, although the Army particularly
had proposed that possibility as the most suitable way
of bringing in troops. Regarding the operation
"Marita," perhaps not much more can be said
than to mention the march through Bulgaria, which had
been prepared and discussed diplomatically with that
country.
Q. I would like to ask just one
more question on that subject. The prosecution has
stated that even before the fall of the Yugoslav
Government - that is to say, at the end of March, 1941 -
negotiations were conducted with Hungary as to the
possibility of an attack on Yugoslavia. Were you or the
O.K.W. informed of this, or did you participate?
A. No. I have no recollection at all of any
military discussion on the part of the O.K.W. with
Hungary regarding military action in the case of
Yugoslavia. That is completely unknown to me. On the
contrary, everything that happened later on - I shall
have to say a few words about Yugoslavia later - was
merely improvised. Nothing had been prepared, at any
rate, not with the knowledge of the O.K.W.
Q.
But it is known to you, is it not, that military
discussions with Hungary had taken place during that
period? I assume that you merely want to say that they
did not refer to Yugoslavia.
A. Of course,
it was known to me that several discussions had taken
place with the Hungarian General Staff.
Q.
You said you wanted to say something else about the case
of Yugoslavia. Reich Marshal Goering has here made
statements upon that subject. Can you add anything new?
Otherwise, I have no further questions with regard to
that subject.
A. I should merely like to
confirm once more that the decision to attack Yugoslavia
meant completely upsetting all military movements and
arrangements made up to that time. "Marita"
had to be completely readjusted. Also new forces had to
be brought through Hungary from the North. All that was
completely improvised.
Q. We come now to the
plan "Barbarossa." The Soviet Prosecution,
particularly, have revealed that the Supreme Command of
the Armed Forces and you as Chief of Staff, as early as
the summer of 1940, had occupied themselves with a plan
of attack against the Soviet Union. When did Hitler for
the first time talk to you about the possibility of a
conflict, of an armed conflict with the Soviet Union?
A. As far as I recollect, that was at the
beginning of August, 1940, on the occasion of a
discussion of the situation at Berchtesgaden, or rather
at his house, the Berghof. That was the first time that
the possibility of an armed conflict with the Soviet
Union was discussed.
Q. What reasons did
Hitler give at that time for thinking that a war with
the Soviet Union was possible?
A. I think I
can refer to what Reich Marshal Goering has said on this
subject. According to our conception, there were
considerable troop concentrations in Bessarabia and
Bukowina. The Foreign Minister, too, had mentioned
figures, which I can't recall - and there was the
anxiety which had been repeatedly voiced by Hitler at
that time that something further might arise in the
Roumanian theatre which would endanger our source of
petroleum, the fuel supply for the conduct of the war,
which for the most part came from that country. Apart
from that, I think he talked about strong and obvious
troop concentrations in the Baltic provinces.
Q. Were any directives given by you at that time or by
those branches off the Armed Forces which were affected?
A. No. As far as I can recollect this was confined
firstly to increased activities of the intelligence or
espionage service against Russia and, secondly, to
certain investigations regarding the possibility of
transferring troops from the West, from France, as
quickly as possible to the South-east areas or to East
Prussia. Certain return transports of troops from the
Eastern army corps districts had already taken place at
the end of July. Apart from that no instructions were
given at that time.
Q. How was the line of
demarcation occupied?
A. There had been
continual reports from that demarcation line, of
frontier incidents, of firing, and particularly of
frequent crossings of that line by aircraft of the
Soviet Union. This led to the exchange of notes. There
were small but fierce frontier actions, particularly in
the South, and we received information through our
frontier troops that from time to time new Russian troop
units appeared opposite them, I think that was all.
Q. Do you know how many divisions of the
German Wehrmacht were stationed there at the time?
A. During the Western campaign there were - I do
not think I am wrong this time - seven divisions; seven
divisions from East Prussia to the Carpathians, two of
which, during the Western campaign, had even been
transported to the West but were later on transported
back again.
Q. The prosecution stated that
at the end of July, 1940, Colonel General Jodl had given
general instructions in a conference to certain officers
of the Armed Forces Operations Staff to occupy
themselves with the Russian problem, and particularly to
examine railway transport conditions. Since you said a
little earlier that not until August did you hear for
the first time from Hitler what the situation was, I am
now asking you whether you were informed about these
conferences of Colonel General Jodl.
A. No.
I did not hear that such a conference took place in
Berchtesgaden at the end of July or beginning of August
until I came here. This was due to the fact that I was
absent from Berchtesgaden. I did not know of this
conference, and I think General Jodl probably forgot to
tell me about it at the time.
Q. What were
your personal views at that time regarding the problem
which arose out of the conference with Hitler?
A. When I realised that the matter had been given
really serious thought I was most surprised, and I felt
it most unfortunate. I seriously considered what could
be done by using military arguments to influence Hitler.
At that time, as has been briefly mentioned here by the
Foreign Minister, I wrote a memorandum, giving my
personal views on the matter, quite independently of the
views of the experts on the General Staff and the Armed
Forces Operations Staff. I intended to present this
memorandum to Hitler, because, as a rule, one could
never get beyond the second sentence of a discussion
with him. He took the words out of one's mouth and
after-wards one never was able to say what one wanted
to. In this connection I should like to say that I had
the idea - it was the first and only time - of visiting
the Foreign Minister personally, in order to ask him to
support me from the political angle regarding that
question. Hence the visit to Fuschl, which has already
been discussed here and which the Foreign Minister von
Ribbentrop confirmed during his examination the other
day.
Q. Then you confirm what Herr von
Ribbentrop has said, so that there is no need for me to
repeat it?
A. I confirm that I went to
Fuschl. I had the memorandum with me. It had been
written by hand, since I did not want anybody else to
see it, and I left Fuschl convinced that he wanted to
try to exercise influence on Hitler to the same end. He
promised me he would do so.
Q. Did you give
that memorandum to Hitler?
A. Yes. Some time
later at the Berghof, after a report of the situation
had been given, I handed him that memorandum when we
were alone. I think he told me at the time that he was
going to study it. He took it without giving me a chance
to make any explanations.
Q. Considering its
importance did you later on find an opportunity to refer
to it again?
A. Yes. At first nothing at all
happened. Later, therefore, I reminded him of it and
asked him to discuss the problem with me. This he did,
and the matter was dealt with very briefly by his saying
that the military and strategic considerations put
forward by me were in no way convincing. He, Hitler,
considered these ideas erroneous, and turned them down.
In that connection I can perhaps mention very briefly
that I was again very much upset and there was another
crisis when I asked to be relieved of my post, and that
another man be put in my office and that I be sent to
the front. That once more led to a sharp controversy as
has already been described by the Reich Marshal, when he
said that Hitler took the attitude that he would not
tolerate that a general, whose views he did not agree
with, should ask to be relieved of his post because of
his disagreement. I think he said that he had every
right to turn down such suggestions and ideas if he
considered them wrong, and that I had not the right to
make any inferences from that.
Q. Did he
return that memorandum to you?
A. No, I do
not think I got it back. I have always assumed that it
was found among the captured Schmundt files, but
apparently such is not the case. I did not get it back;
he kept it.
Q. I do not wish to occupy the
time of the Tribunal in this connection any further. I
will leave it to you as to whether you wish to disclose
the contents of that memorandum. I am not so much
concerned with the military presentation, one can
imagine what that was, but the question is: did you
refer to the Non-Aggression Pact of 1939 in that
memorandum?
A. Yes, but I must say that the
main part was devoted to military considerations; the
balance of forces, the requirements of the forces, and
the extent to which they were dispersed - with troops in
France and Norway, and the air force in Italy, so that
we were tied down in the West. In that memorandum I most
certainly referred to the fact that that Non-Aggression
Pact existed. But the memorandum was mainly concerned
with military considerations.
Q. Were any
military orders given at that time?
A. No
orders were given at that time except for the
improvement of lines of communications from the West to
the East for speeding up troop transports, particularly
to the South-eastern sector; in other words, north of
the Carpathians and in the East Prussian sector. Apart
from that no orders of any kind were given.
Q. Had the discussion with Foreign Minister Molotov
already taken place?
A. No. On the contrary,
the idea of a discussion with the Russians was still
pending in October. Hitler also told me at the time, and
he always emphasised this, that until such a discussion
had taken place he would not give any orders, since it
had been proved to him by General Jodl that in any case
it was technically impossible to transfer strong troop
units into the threatened sectors, which I have
mentioned, in the East. Accordingly, nothing was done.
The visit or discussion with the Russian delegation was
arranged, in which connection I would like to say that I
made the suggestion at that time that Hitler should talk
personally with Stalin. That was the only thing I did in
the matter.
Q. During that conference were
military matters discussed?
A. I didn't take
any part in the discussions with M. Molotov, although in
this instance also I was present at the reception and
certain official functions, and on two occasions sat
next to him at the table. I didn't hear any political
discussion nor did I have any with, M. Molotov.
Q. What did Hitler say after these discussions had
come to an end?
A. He really said very
little. He more or less said that he was disappointed in
the discussions. I think he mentioned briefly that
problems regarding the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea
areas had been discussed in a general way and that he
had not been able to get any positive reaction. He
didn't go into details. I asked him about military
matters which had a certain significance at the time -
the strong forces, for instance, in the Bessarabian
sector. I think Hitler evaded the question and said that
was obviously connected with all these matters and that
he had not gone into it too deeply, or something
similar. I can't remember exactly. At any rate, there
was nothing new in it for us and nothing final.
Q. After that conference were any military orders
given?
A. I think not even then, but Hitler
told us at the time that he wished to wait for the
reaction to these discussions in the Eastern area after
the delegation had returned to Russia. Certain orders
had been given to the ambassador, too, in that respect.
However, orders were not given directly after the
Molotov visit.
Q. May I ask you to state the
date when the first definite instructions were given?
A. I can only reconstruct it on the strength
of the "Barbarossa" instructions, which have
been shown to me here and which came out in December. I
believe it must have been during the first half of
December that the well-known "Barbarossa"
orders were given. To be precise, these orders were
given at the beginning of December, namely, the orders
to work out the strategic plan.
Q. Did you
know about the conferences which took place at Zossen in
December and which have been mentioned by the
prosecution here? Perhaps I may remind you that the
Finnish General Heinrichs was present.
A.
No, I knew nothing about the conference in Zossen. I
think General Buschenhagen was also there, according to
the statements he has made here. I did not know anything
about the Finnish General Heinrichs' presence in Zossen
and have heard about it for the first time here. The
only way I can explain this is that the General Staff of
the Army wanted to get documents or other things and
that they discussed that in addition with the persons
concerned. I did not meet General Heinrichs until May,
1941. At that time I had a talk with him and General
Jodl at Salzburg. Before that I had never seen him and I
had never talked to him.
Q. Is there any
significance in the fact that Directive No. 21 says that
Hitler would order the attack and the actual troop
dispositions eight weeks before the operational plan
would become effective?
A. Yes, there was
considerable significance attached to that. I have been
interrogated about that by the Soviet Union Delegation
here. The reason was that according to the Army's
calculations, it would take about eight weeks to get
these troops, which were to be transported by rail, into
position; that is to say, if troops from Reich territory
were to be placed in position on an operative starting
line. Hitler emphasised, when the repeated revisions of
the plan were made, that he wanted to have complete
control of those dispositions. In other words, troop
movements without his approval were not to be made. That
was the purpose of this directive.
Q. When
did it become clear to you that Hitler had decided to
attack the Soviet Union?
A. As far as I can
recollect, it was at the beginning of March. The idea
was that the attack might be made approximately in the
middle of May. Therefore the decision regarding the
transport of troops by rail had to be made in the,
middle of March. For that reason, during the first half
of March a meeting of generals was called - that is to
say, a command reception of generals at Hitler's
headquarters, and the explanations given by him at that
time had the clear purpose of telling the generals that
he had on his own initiative decided to carry out those
troop movements, although an order had not yet been
given. He produced several suggestions, and issued
certain instructions on matters which are contained in
these directives here for the Special Case Barbarossa.
This is Document 447-PS, and these are the directives
which were eventually signed by me too. He then gave us
the directive for these guiding principles and ideas, so
that the generals were already informed about the
contents, which in turn induced me to confirm it in
writing in this form; for there was nothing new in it
for any one who had taken part in the discussions.
Q. It appears to me, however, that what Hitler
told the generals in his address was something new; and
it also seems to me that you who were concerned with
these matters, that is to say, who had worked on them,
understood or should have understood that now a
completely abnormal method of warfare was about to
begin, at least when seen from your traditional point of
view as a soldier.
A. That is correct. Here
views were expressed regarding the administration and
economic exploitation of the territories to be conquered
or occupied. There was the completely new idea of
setting up Reich Commissioners and civil
administrations. There was the definite decision to give
Supreme Command to the Trustee of the Four-Year Plan in
the economic field; and what was for me the most
important point and the one that affected me most was
the fact that apart from the authority of the commander
of the occupation forces, as such, to administer those
territories, it was clear that Reich Leader S.S. Himmler
was to be given extensive plenipotentiary powers
concerning all police actions which would, later, become
necessary. I firmly opposed that, since to me it seemed
impossible that there should be two forces working side
by side. In the directives here it says: "The
authority of the Commander-in-Chief of the Army is not
affected by this." That was a complete illusion and
self-deception. Quite the opposite happened. As long as
it was possible, I fought against it. I think I ought to
say that I have no witness to that other than General
Jodl, who shared these experiences with me. Eventually,
however, Hitler worked out these directives himself,
more or less, and gave them the meaning he wanted. That
I had no power to order the things which are contained
in these directives is clear from the fact that it says
that the Reich Marshal receives this task, and the Reich
Leader S.S. receives that task, and so on. I had no say
in these matters.
Q. Was it never actually
discussed that if one wanted to launch an attack on the
Soviet Union, one would have to take diplomatic steps or
else send a declaration of war, or an ultimatum?
A. Oh yes, I discussed that. As early as the
winter of 1940- 1, whenever there were discussions
regarding the strength of the Russian forces on the
demarcation line - that is in December-January - I asked
Hitler to send a note to the Soviet Union so as to bring
about a cleaning up, so to speak, of the situation. I
can add now that the first time he said nothing at all,
and the second time he refused, maintaining that it was
useless, for he would only receive the answer that this
was an internal affair and that it was none of our
business, or something like that. At any rate, he
refused. I tried again, at a later stage, that is to
say, I voiced the request that an ultimatum should be
presented before we entered upon an action, so that in
some form the basis would be created to justify a
preventive war, as we called it, if attacked.
Q. You say "preventive war." When the
final decisions were made, what was the military
situation?
A. I am best reminded of how we,
or rather the Army judged the situation, by a summary or
memorandum - I believe it is Document 872-PS - yes,
872-PS ... dated the end of January or the beginning of
February - of a report made by the Chief of the General
Staff of the Army to Hitler regarding the state of
operative and strategic preparations. In this document I
found full details as to what we then knew of the
strength of the Red Army, and other existing
information. Apart from that, I have to add that the
intelligence service of the O.K.W. - Admiral Canaris -
placed at my disposal or at the Army's disposal very
little material, because the Russian sector was closely
sealed against German intelligence. In other words,
there were gaps up to a certain point. Only the things
contained in Document 872-PS were known.
Q.
Would you like to say briefly what it contained, so as
to justify your decision?
A. Yes, there were
- Halder reported that there were approximately 150
Soviet divisions deployed along the line of demarcation
and the borders. Then there were aerial photographs of a
large number of aerodromes. In other words, there was a
degree of preparedness on the part of Soviet Russia,
which could at any time lead to military action. Only
the actual fighting later made it clear just how far the
enemy, had been prepared. I must say that we only fully
realised all these things during the actual attack.
Q. You were present during Hitler's last
speech to the Commanders in the East, made on 14th June,
1941, in the Reich Chancellery, were you not? I ask you
to state briefly, without going over the same ground,
what Hitler said on that occasion, and what effect it
had on the generals.
THE PRESIDENT: Isn't
there a document in connection with this? It must all be
in the document. Isn't that so?
DR. NELTE: I
wanted to ask one question on that subject and then
submit the document; or, if the Tribunal so desires, I
will not read the document at all, but will merely quote
the short summary which is at the end of it. Will the
Tribunal agree to that?
THE PRESIDENT: But
what you did was to ask the defendant what was in the
document.
DR. NELTE: The document contains,
if I may briefly indicate it, the following:
The development, and the continuously increasing
influence of non-military organisations on the conduct
of the war. This document proves that the Armed Forces,
during this war - which must be called a degenerate war
- tried, as far as possible, to keep within the limits
of International Law and that when the.
THE
PRESIDENT: I only want to know what your question is,
that is all.
DR. NELTE: My question was
directed to Field Marshal Keitel, and I asked him to
tell me about the speech on 14th June, 1941; what Hitler
ordered the generals to do, and what was their reaction.
With that, I intended to conclude the preparations for
the Russian campaign.
THE PRESIDENT: He can
tell what the effect was upon himself, but I don't see
how he can tell what the effect was upon the other
generals.
DR. NELTE: He can only give his own
opinion, of course, but he can say whether the others
reacted in any way, and if there were arguments or
expostulations? I merely wanted to know whether this
happened or not.
THE PRESIDENT: Perhaps you
had better ask him what happened that day at the
conference; if you want to know what happened at the
conference, why don't you ask him?
BY DR.
NELTE: Q. Please say.
A. After short
addresses regarding the operational orders to the
various commanders, there followed a recapitulation,
which I must describe as a political speech. The main
theme was that this was the decisive battle between two
ideologies, and that this fact made it impossible to use
in this war methods as we soldiers knew them and which
were considered to be the only correct ones under
International Law. The war could not be carried on by
these means. In this case completely different standards
had to be applied. This was an entirely new kind of war,
based on completely different arguments and principles.
After certain details had been explained, various orders
were given with regard, to the abolition of any legal
system in territories which were not pacified, and to
the suppression, by brutal means, of all resistance.
Every local resistance movement was to be considered as
the logical outcome of the deep rift between the two
ideologies. These were decidedly entirely new and very
impressive ideas, and they affected us deeply.
Q. Did you, or any other generals raise objections
to or make any expostulations against these
explanations, directives and orders?
A. I
personally did not - I had already voiced my objections.
As to the other generals, I do not know whether any of
them spoke to the Fuehrer on these matters. They did
not, in any case, do so after that conference.
DR. NELTE: Mr. President, I think that now the
time has come to decide whether you will accept the
affidavits of the defendant Keitel contained in my
document book No. 2 under the numbers 3 and 5, as
exhibits. Perhaps the prosecution will express an
opinion on this. Up to now we have merely discussed the
history before the actual Russian campaign. In so far as
the defendant Keitel and the O.K.W. is concerned, I
should like to shorten the examination by submitting
these two affidavits. The affidavit - No. 3 - is, an
account of the conditions concerning orders in the East.
The extent of the territory and the numerous
organisations led to an extremely complicated procedure
for giving orders. To make it possible for you to
ascertain whether it was the defendant Keitel or the
O.K.W., or some department that was responsible, the
conditions concerning the giving of orders in the East
have been presented in detail. I believe it would save a
great deal of time if you would accept this document as
an exhibit.
SIR DAVID MAXWELL FYFE: My Lord,
Mr. Dodd and I have no objection to this procedure used
by the defence and we believe that it might probably
help the Tribunal to have in front of them the printed
accounts.
THE PRESIDENT: Does Dr. Nelte
intend to read or only summarise these affidavits?
DR. NELTE: I intend merely to submit it to you
after I have asked the defendant whether the contents of
the affidavits have been written and signed by him.
THE PRESIDENT: And the prosecution, of
course, have had these affidavits for some time?
SIR DAVID MAXWELL FYFE: Yes.
DR.
NELTE: The same applies, if I understand Sir David
correctly, to affidavit No. 5!
SIR DAVID
MAXWELL FYFE: Yes.
THE PRESIDENT: Dr. Nelte,
it would be convenient, I think, if you gave these
affidavits numbers in the sequence of your exhibit
numbers and give us also the dates of them so that we
can identify them. Can you give us the dates of the
affidavits ?
DR. NELTE: May I be permitted
to arrange the matter in the secretary's office during
the luncheon interval?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
The first is dated 8th March, isn't it, and the other
18th March, I believe? Dr. Nelte, you can do it at the
recess and give them numbers. It is nearly 1 o'clock
now, and we are just going to adjourn. You can give them
numbers then. Does that conclude your examination?
DR. NELTE: We come now to the individual cases
which I hope, however, to conclude in the course of the
afternoon. I fear I must discuss the prisoner-of-war
circumstances and individual matters. I think I still
need this afternoon for myself. I believe that if I bear
in mind the interests of the defendant Keitel, I am
limiting myself a good deal.
THE PRESIDENT:
Do you desire to put your questions to him now or not?
DR. NELTE: I think - I don't know how the
President feels about it - it would be suitable if we
had a recess now so that in the meantime I can put the
affidavits in order. I have not yet finished the
discussion of this subject.
THE PRESIDENT:
We will adjourn now. (The Tribunal adjourned until 14.00
hours.)
DR. NELTE: Mr. President, of the two
documents mentioned this morning, the first document,
No. 3 of the second document book, entitled "The
Command Relationships in the East," will be given
the number 10 of the Keitel Documents. THE PRESIDENT:
That is dated 14th March, 1946?
DR. NELTE:
Yes.
THE PRESIDENT: The document that I have
got is headed 23rd February, 1946, and, at the end, 14th
March, 1946. Is that the one?
DR. NELTE: The
document was first written down and later sworn to.
There is, therefore, a difference in the two dates.
THE PRESIDENT: I only wanted to identify
which it is, that is all.
DR. NELTE: It is
the document of 14th March.
THE PRESIDENT:
Very well.
DR. NELTE: The affidavit is dated
14th March.
THE PRESIDENT: And you are
giving it what number?
DR. NELTE: I give it
No. K-10. The second document, which is fifth in the
document book, is dated 18th March, 1946, and has at the
end the defendant's attestation as of 29th March. This
document has received the number K-12. Permit me to read
a few points on Pages 11 and 12 of the German copy.
This, as it appears to me, is of very great importance
for this Trial.
THE PRESIDENT: Of which
document?
DR. NELTE: Document No. 12.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
DR. NELTE: The
question in this document -
THE PRESIDENT:
Just a minute. I do not think the interpreters have
found the document yet, have they?
DR. NELTE: I shall begin where it says: "In summing
up." Those are the last three pages of this
document. "In summing up it must be established
that:
1. In addition to the Armed Forces as
the 1egal protector of the Reich internally and
externally (as in every State), a peculiar, completely
independent power-factor - I interpolate, the S.S.
organisation - arose and was legalised. Politically,
biologically, and in both police and administration
matters, this organisation actually drew the powers of
the State to itself.
2. Even at the
beginning of military complications and conflicts the
S.S. came to be the actual forerunner and
standard-bearer of a policy of conquest and power.
3. After military actions had begun the
Reichs-leader S.S. devised methods which always appeared
appropriate, were mostly concealed, or if not, were
hardly apparent from the outside, and which enabled him
in reality to build up his power under the guise of
protecting the annexed or occupied territories from
political opponents.
4. From the occupation
of the Sudeten territory, beginning with the
organisation of political unrest, that is, of the
so-called freedom movements and 'incidents,' the road
leads straight through Poland and the Western areas in a
steep curve into Russian territory.
5. With
the directives for the 'Barbarossa' plan for the
administration and utilisation of the conquered Eastern
territories, the Armed Forces were, against their
intention and without knowledge of the conditions, drawn
further and further into the subsequent developments and
activities.
6. I (Keitel) and my colleagues
had no deeper insight into the extent of Himmler's full
powers, and had no idea of the possible effect of these
powers.
I assume without further discussion
that the same holds true for the O.K.H., which according
to the order of the Fuehrer had made the agreements with
Himmler's officials and had given orders to the
subordinate army commanders. 7. In reality, it was not
the Commander-in-Chief of the Army who had the executive
power assigned to him and the power to decree law and
maintain law in the occupied territories, but it was
Himmler and Heydrich who decided on their own authority
the fate of the people and prisoners, including
prisoners of war, in whose camps they represented the
executive power.
8. The traditional training
and concept of duty of the German officers, which taught
unquestioning obedience to superiors who bore, the
responsibility, led to an attitude, regrettable in
retrospect, which caused them to shrink from rebelling
against these orders and these methods even when they
recognised their illegality, and inwardly refuted them.
9. The Fuehrer abused his authority and his
fundamental No. 1 Order in an irresponsible way with
respect to us. This No. 1 Order read, more or less:
1. No one shall know about secret matters
which do not belong to his own range of assignments.
2. No one shall learn more than he needs to
fulfil the tasks assigned to him.
3. No one
shall receive information earlier than is necessary for
the performance of the duties assigned to him.
4. No one shall transmit orders which are to be
kept secret to subordinate offices to any greater extent
or any earlier than is unavoidable for the achievement
of the purpose.
10. If what would be the
consequence of granting Himmler authority in the East
had been known beforehand, the leading generals would
have been the first to raise an unequivocal protest.
That is my conviction. As these atrocities developed one
out of the other, step by step and without any
foreknowledge of the consequences, destiny took its
tragic course, with fateful results." Witness,
defendant Keitel, did you, yourself, write this
statement, that is, dictate it as I have just read it?
Are you perfectly familiar with its contents and have
you sworn to it?
KEITEL: Yes.
DR. NELTE: I shall submit the document in the original.
BY DR. NELTE:
Q. We had stopped
at Document C-50 which mentioned the abolition of
military jurisdiction in the "Barbarossa"
area. I do not know whether you still want to express
your opinion on it or whether that is now superfluous
after what has just been read.
A. I should
only like to say to this, that these documents C- 50 and
884-PS are the record of the directives that were given
in that general staff meeting on the 24th June. In line
with military regulations and customs they have been
given the form of orders in writing and then sent to the
subordinate officers.
Q. I have a few more
short questions regarding the war against America. The
prosecution asserts that Japan was influenced by Germany
to wage war against America and has, in the course of
its presentation, accused you of participation and
co-operation in this plan. Would you like to make some
statement regarding this?
A. Document C-75
is a directive by the Supreme Command of the Armed
Forces which deals with co-operation with Japan. Of
course, I participated in the drawing-up of this order
and signed it.
The other Document, 1881-PS,
regarding a conference between the Fuehrer and Matsuoka
I know nothing of, nor did I know anything of it at the
time. I can only say the following for us soldiers:
During the whole of this period, until the Japanese
entry into the war against America, there were two
points of view that were the general directions or
principles which Hitler emphasised to us: One was to
prevent America from entering the war under any
circumstances; i.e. to avoid any naval operations in
waters where American naval forces were present.
Secondly, the hope that Japan would enter the war
against Russia, and I recall that around November and
the beginning of December, 1941, when the advance of the
German armies west of Moscow was halted, and I visited
the front with Hitler, I was asked several times by the
generals: "When is Japan going to enter the
war?" The reason for that question was that Russian
Far- Eastern divisions were being continuously thrown
into the fight around Moscow. These were fresh troops
coming from the Far East, to the number of about 18 to
20 divisions, though I could not give exact figures. I
was present at Matsuoka's visit in Berlin and I met him
socially too, but I did not have any conversation with
him. All the combinations that can be associated with
Directive 24, C-75, and which I have gathered from the
preliminary examination during my interrogation, are
without any foundation for us soldiers and there is no
justification for anyone's believing that we were guided
by thoughts of bringing about a war between Japan and
America, or of undertaking anything to that end. In
conclusion I can only say that this directive was
necessary because the branches of the Armed Forces
offered resistance to giving Japan information about
certain things (military secrets) in armament production
unless she were in the war.
Q. There was
also a letter submitted by the prosecution, a letter
from Major von Falkenstein to the Air Staff. Reich
Marshal Goering testified to this in his interrogation.
I only wanted to ask you if you know of this letter or
if you have anything to add to Reich Marshal Goering's
testimony?
A. I have nothing to add, for I
never saw this letter from von Falkenstein, until I saw
it here for the first time on being interrogated.
Q. We come now to the individual facts with which
you and the O.K.W are charged by the prosecution.
Because of their great number I can naturally only
choose individual groups and those with the most onerous
charges, in order to elucidate whether and to what
extent you were involved and what your attitude was to
the ensuing results. In most cases it is a question of
orders of Hitler, but in your statement on the actual
happenings you have admitted to a certain participation
and knowledge of these things. Therefore we must discuss
these points. One of the most important of these
questions is the question of hostages. I want to show
you Document C-128 with regard to this question. These
are orders for operations in the West. Let me ask you
though, first of all, what is the reason for the taking
of hostages as it was usually carried out by the
Wehrmacht?
A. These are the Printed
Regulations, "Secret G-2 H.Dv. G-2" and
headed, according to the order: "Instructions for
Army Units."
DR. NELTE: I ask you, Mr.
President, to turn to Document Book 1, K on Page 65 of
my document book.
BY DR. NELTE: Q. I ask you
to establish whether this is a copy from the
aforementioned Army Regulations, Section 9, which deals
with the question of hostages. This is Document K-7 and
it reads as follows: "Hostages may be taken only by
order of a Regimental Commander, an independent
Battalion Commander or a Commander of equal rank. With
regard to accommodation and feeding, it is to be noted
that, though they should be kept under strictest guard,
they are not convicts. Furthermore, only senior officers
holding the position of at least a Divisional Commander
can decide on the fate of hostages." That is, if
you want to call it so, the Hostage Law of the German
Wehrmacht.
A. I might say in this connection
that in Document C-128, which is the preparatory
operational order of the Army for the battle in the
West, it is mentioned specially under the heading:
"3A, Security measures against the population of
occupied territory. (A) Hostages." THE PRESIDENT:
Dr. Nelte, are you offering that as K-7? DR. NELTE: I
ask to have these printed Army Instructions put in
evidence as K-7.
THE PRESIDENT: Would you
kindly say what you are putting it in as each time,
because if you simply say "seven" it will lead
to confusion.
DR. NELTE: K-7
BY
DR. NELTE: Q. Was Document C-128 the orders of the High
Command of the Army on the occasion of the march into
France?
A. Yes.
Q. Now I have
here another document, 1585-PS, which contains one point
of view taken by the O.K.W. It is a letter to the Reich
Minister for Air and Commander-in-Chief of the
Luftwaffe; and in this letter, I assume, are contained
the convictions held by the office of which you were
head.
A. Yes.
Q. What do you say
today in connection with this letter?
A. I
can only say that it is precisely the same standpoint
that I represent today, because, with reference to the
above- mentioned order, appears the following paragraph,
beginning with the words: "Security against any
misuse." and so on. Then the order is quoted.
Q. This is in reference to the order GB-2 and
further, regarding the decision as to the fate of
hostages -
A. It says: "According to
which the decision on the fate of hostages can only be
made by someone of at least as high a rank as a
divisional commander."
Q. Is it correct
when I say that this letter was drawn up by the Legal
Department of the O.K.W. after examination of the
situation as regards International Law and its
implications.
A. Yes, it is to be seen from
the document itself that this point of view was taken
into consideration.
Q. Did you issue any
general orders on this question of hostages in your
capacity as Chief of the O.K.W., apart from those we
have had up to now?
A. No, the O.K.W.
participated only in helping to draw up this order. No
other basic orders or directions were issued on this
question.
Q. Did you nevertheless in
individual cases have anything to do with them on this
question of hostages? You and the O.K.W. are charged by
the prosecution of having expressed yourselves in some
way or of having taken some kind of attitude when
inquiries were made by Stuelpnagel and Falkenhausen.
I show you Document 1594-PS.
A.
This document is a communication from von Falkenhausen,
the Military Commander of Belgium, and is directed to
the O.K.H., General Staff, Quartermaster General, and
further to the Commander-in-Chief of the Western Front,
and Supreme Commander in the West and for the attention
of the Netherlands and Luftgau Belgium. I do not know
this document nor could I know it, for it is directed to
the Army. The assumption expressed by the French
Prosecutor that I received a letter from Falkenhausen is
not true. I do not know this letter and it was not sent
to me. Official communication between the military
commanders in France and Belgium took place only between
the O.K.H. and the two military commanders subordinate
to him. These commanders were not subordinate either to
the O.K.W. or to me.
Q. The French
Prosecution has submitted Document UK-25 and has
asserted that this document was the basis for the
hostage legislation in France; that there is, in other
words, a basic connection between the order you signed
on 16th September, 1941, and the treatment of hostages
in France. I will show you these documents, 1587-PS and
1588-PS in addition to UK-25, and request you to comment
on them.
A. I must first answer the question
as to whether I had any discussion on individual matters
with military commanders regarding the question of
hostages. Did you not ask me that?
Q. With
regard to Stuelpnagel and Falkenhausen?
A.
Yes, with regard to Stuelpnagel and Falkenhausen. It is
possible, and I do recall one such case: Stuelpnagel
called me up from Paris because he had received an order
from the Army to shoot a certain number of hostages for
an attack on members of the German Armed Forces. He
wanted to have this order certified by me. That was done
and I believe it is confirmed by a telegram, which has
been shown to me here. It is also confirmed that at that
time I had a meeting with Stuelpnagel in Berlin.
Moreover, these two commanders got into touch with me
only in exceptional circumstances. When they thought
that I might assist them to carry out some difficult
task which they did not feel able to deal with unaided;
for example, in such questions as labour recruitment -
that is, workers from Belgium or France destined for
Germany - or even, in one case, conflicts between the
military commanders and the police. In these cases I was
called up directly in order to mediate. Permit me,
please, to look at the documents now.
Q. You
must begin with UK-25, 16th September, 1941.
A. Yes.
THE PRESIDENT: It is impossible for
the Tribunal to carry all these documents in their heads
by reference to their numbers and we haven't the
documents before us. We do not know what documents you
are dealing with here. It is quite impossible for us.
DR. NELTE: Mr. President, for this reason, I
took the liberty of submitting to the Tribunal before
the beginning of the sessions a list of documents. I am
sorry if that was not done. I could not submit the
documents themselves. You will always find a number to
the left of this list.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I
see that, but all that I see here is 1587-PS, which is
not the one that you are referring to, apparently, and
it is described as a report to the Supreme Command of
the Army. That does not give us much indication of what
it is about. The next one is 1594-PS, a letter to O.K.H.
That again does not give us much indication of what it
is about, except that it has something to do with the
hostage question.
DR. NELTE: It is concerned
with the question which the defendant Keitel is about to
answer. Have you not also the Order bearing No. C-128?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I have that. That is
"Directions for the Operation in the West."
DR. NELTE: And UK-25? THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
DR. NELTE: And 1588-PS?
THE
PRESIDENT: We have got them all. The only thing that I
was pointing out to you was that the description of them
is inadequate to explain to us what they mean and what
they are. Perhaps by a word or two you can indicate to
us, when you come to the document, what it is about.
DR. NELTE: Document UK-25, regarding which
the defendant Keitel is about to testify, is an order
signed by him of 16th September, 1941, regarding
"Communist Uprisings in the Occupied
Territories." It contains, among other things, the
sentence: "The Fuehrer has now ordered that most
severe measures should be taken everywhere in order to
crush this movement as soon as possible." The
French Prosecution asserted that on the basis of this
order, Hostage Legislation was promulgated in France.
This is contained in Document 1588-PS. If you have this
document, you will find on the third page regulations
regarding the taking and treatment of hostages.
BY DR. NELTE: Q. The defendant is to state whether
such a connection did exist and to what extent the
O.K.W. and he himself were competent in these matters at
all.
A. Document UK-25, the Fuehrer Order of
16th September, 1941, is, as you have just heard,
concerned with Communist uprisings in occupied
territories, and the fact that this is a Fuehrer order
has already been mentioned. I must clarify the fact that
this order, so far as its contents are concerned, was
directed solely to the Eastern regions, particularly the
Balkan countries. I believe that I can prove this by the
fact that there is attached to this document a
distribution list, i.e. a list of the regions to which
it pertains, beginning: "Wehrmacht Commanders,
Southeast, for Serbia, Southern Greece and Crete."
This was, of course, transmitted also to other Wehrmacht
commanders and also to the O.K.H. with the possibility
of passing it on to its subordinate officers. I believe
that this document, which, for the sake of saving time,
I shall not read here, has several indications that the
assumption on the part of the French Prosecution that
the basis for the hostage law is to be found in Document
1588-PS is false, and that there is no basic connection
between the two. Also, the date of this hostage law is
September, the number is hard to read, but, as can be
seen from its contents, these two matters are, in my
opinion, not connected. Moreover, the two military
commanders in France and Belgium never received this
order from the O.K.W. but they may have received it
through the O.K.H., a matter which I cannot check on
because I do not know. Regarding this order of 16th
September, 1941, I should like to say that its
considerable strictness can be traced back to the
personal influence of the Fuehrer, and the fact that it
is concerned with the Eastern region, which is to be
seen already in the introduction, and does not need to
be substantiated any further. It is correct to say that
this order of 16th September, 1941, is signed by me.
Q. We come now to the second individual
fact: "Nacht und Nebel." The prosecution
charges you with having participated in the "Nacht
und Nebel" decree of 12th December, 1941, Document
L-90 -
A. May I say one more thing regarding
the other question?
Q. Please, if it appears
to be necessary. In the order of 2nd February, 1942, we
find the words: "A decree of the Fuehrer of 7th
December, 1941." You wanted to say something more;
if it is important, please, have you Document L-90?
A. L-90, yes.
Q. What was the
cause for this order, so terrible in its consequences?
A. I must state that it is perfectly clear
to me that the connection of my name with this so-called
"Nacht und Nebel" order is a serious charge
against me, even though it can be seen from the order
that it is a Fuehrer order. Consequently I should like
to state how this order came about. From the beginning
of the Eastern campaign and in the late autumn of 1941
until the spring of 1942, the resistance movement,
sabotage and everything connected with it, increased to
a very great extent in all the occupied territories.
From the military angle it meant that the security
troops were tied down, having to be kept on the spot by
the unrest. That is how I saw it from the military point
of view. And day by day, through the daily reports we
could picture the sequences of events in the individual
occupation sectors. It was impossible to handle this
summarily; rather, Hitler demanded that he be informed
of each individual occurrence, and he was very
displeased if such matters were concealed from him in
the reports by military authorities. He got to know
about them all the same. In this connection he said to
me that it was very displeasing to him and very
unfavourable to pacification; that, owing to this, death
sentences by court-martial against saboteurs and their
accomplices were increasing; that he did not wish this
to occur, as from his point of view it merely made
pacification and relations with the population more
difficult. He said that pacification could only be
achieved if sabotage decreased; that, instead of death
sentences - if, as stated in the decree, a death
sentence could not be expected and carried out - and
instead of lengthy court- martial proceedings with
numerous witnesses, the suspect or guilty persons
concerned (if one may use the word "guilty")
should be deported to Germany without their families
knowing, and be interned or imprisoned. I expressed the
greatest misgivings in this matter and know very well
that I said at that time that I feared exactly the
opposite results to those apparently hoped for. I then
had serious discussions with the legal adviser of the
Wehrmacht, who had similar scruples, because there an
ordinary legal procedure was excluded. I tried again to
prevent this order being issued, or to have it modified.
My efforts were in vain. The threat was made to me that
the Minister of Justice would be commissioned to issue a
corresponding decree, should the Wehrmacht not be able
to do so. May I refer to details only in so far as this
order L-90 contains the possibilities of preventing
arbitrary application, and these were as follows: The
general principles of the order provided that such
deportation or abduction into Reich territory should
take place only after a regular court-martial
proceeding, and that in every case the judge, that is,
the divisional commander, together with his legal
adviser, must deal with the matter in the legal way,
after preliminary. proceedings. I must say that I
believed then that every arbitrary and excessive
application of these principles was avoided by this
provision. You will perhaps agree with me that the words
in the order, "It is the will of the Fuehrer, after
long consideration...," were not written in vain
and not without the hope that the military commanders
concerned would also recognise from this that this was a
method of which we did not approve and which I did not
consider to be right. Finally we introduced a
verification procedure into the order so that through
the higher channels of appeal, i.e. the Military
C.-in-C. in France and the Supreme Command or Commander
of the Army, it would be possible to try the case
legally by court-martial if the verdict seemed open to
question within the meaning of the decree. I learned
here for the first time the full extent of the tragedy,
viz.: that this order, which was only intended for the
Wehrmacht and for the sole purpose of determining
whether a criminal who faced a sentence in jail might be
made to disappear by means of this "Nacht und
Nebel" procedure, was obviously applied universally
by the police, as testified by witnesses whom I have
heard here, and according to the indictment which I also
heard; and so the horrible fact of the existence of
whole camps full of people deported through the
"Nacht und Nebel" procedure has been proved.
In my opinion, the Wehrmacht, at least, I and the
military commanders of the occupied territories who
participated, did not know of this in the drafting of
this order. At any rate I was not informed of it.
Therefore, this order, which in itself was undoubtedly
very dangerous and disregarded certain requirements of
law such as we understood it, was able to develop into
that formidable affair of which the prosecution has
spoken. The intention was to take those who were to be
deported from their home country to Germany, because
Hitler was of the opinion that penal servitude in
war-time would not be considered by the persons
concerned as dishonourable, in cases where it was a
question of so-called patriots. It would be felt as a
short detention which would end when the war was over.
These reflections have already been made in part in the
note. If you have any further questions, please put
them.
Q. The order for the carrying out of
this "Nacht und Nebel" policy, states that the
Gestapo was to carry out the transportation of the
condemned to Germany. You stated that the people who
came to Germany were to be turned over to the Minister
of Justice, that is, in normal custody. You will
understand that by your reference to the Gestapo certain
suspicions are raised that it was known from the start
what happened to these people. Can you say anything in
elucidation of that matter?
A. Yes. The
order that was given at that time was that these people
should be turned over to the German legal authorities.
This document signed "by order of ." and then
the signature, was issued 8 weeks later than the decree
itself by the Amt Auslands-Abwehr, as I can see from my
official correspondence. It indicated the agreements,
which had to be reached at that time, regarding the
method by which these people were to be taken from their
native countries to Germany. They were apparently
conducted by this Amt Abwehr which evidently ordered
police detachments as escorts. I might mention in this
connection - as I must have witnessed it - that it did
not seem objectionable at that time, because I had no
reason to assume that these people were being turned
over to the Gestapo - frankly speaking - to be
liquidated, but that the Gestapo was simply being used
as the medium in charge of the transportation to
Germany. I should like to emphasise that particularly,
so that there can be no doubt that it was not our idea
to do away with the people in the way that it was
carried out later in that "Nacht und Nebel"
camp.
Q. We come now to the question of
parachutists, sabotage troops, and commando operations.
The French Prosecution treats in detail the origin and
effect of the two Fuehrer orders of 18th October, 1942,
regarding the treatment of commandos.
DR.
NELTE: (to the Tribunal) Has the Tribunal a copy of this
Fuehrer order? It is 498 -
THE PRESIDENT: We
haven't got a copy of the order. You mean 553-PS or 498?
DR. NELTE: The second is 553-PS
THE PRESIDENT: We have got that, "Combating of
individual parachutists, Decree of 4.8.42."
DR. NELTE: Could you please repeat your statement?
What you just said did not come through.
THE
PRESIDENT: 553-PS, "Combating of individual
parachutists, Decree of 4.8.42." That is what we
have, nothing else. You also have 498 -
Q.
553-PS is a notice signed by Keitel. The French
Prosecution has assumed correctly that there is some
connection between this document and the Fuehrer order
of 18th October, 1942. The defendant is to testify what
were the reasons that lay behind this Fuehrer order and
this notice.
A. First of all, Document
553-PS, the notice: This notice was published by me in
August, 1942. As in the description given by me in
connection with the "Nacht und Nebel" decree,
sabotage acts, the dropping of agents by parachute, the
parachuting of arms, ammunition, explosives, radio sets
and small groups of saboteurs reached greater and
greater proportions. They were dropped at night from
aircraft in thinly populated regions. This activity
covered the whole area governed by Germany at that time.
It extended from France over to Czechoslovakia and
Poland, and from the East, as far as the Berlin area. Of
course a large number of the people involved in these
actions were captured and much of the material was
taken. This memorandum was to rally all establishments
outside the Wehrmacht, police and civilian authorities
to the service against these methods, these new methods,
which were, to our way of thinking, illegal, a sort of
"war in the dark." Even today, after reading
this document through again - it has already been given
to me here - I consider this memorandum unobjectionable.
It expressly provides that members of enemy forces, if
captured by the police, should be taken to the nearest
Wehrmacht office after being identified. I know that in
the French sector, the French police did their full
share in arresting these troops and putting them in safe
custody. They collaborated in preventing these acts of
sabotage. It will perhaps make clear how extensive these
activities were if I mention that on certain days there
were as many as a hundred railroads blown up in this
way. That is in the memorandum. Now, as to the Fuehrer's
orders of 18th October, 1942, which have been mentioned
very often here and which I may describe as the further
development of the regulations mentioned in this
memorandum. These illegal methods of fighting kept on
increasing, and individual parachutists grew into small
commando units who landed from heavy aircraft or by
parachute, and were systematically employed not to
create disturbances or destruction in general but to
attack specific, vital and important military
objectives. In Norway for instance, I recall that they
had the task of blowing up the aluminium works. It may
sound strange, but during this period, half to
three-quarters of an hour of the daily discussion on the
situation was devoted to the problem of how to handle
these incidents. These incidents in all sectors caused
the Fuehrer to demand other methods, vigorous measures,
to combat this activity, which he characterised as
"terrorism" and said that the only method that
could be used to combat it was severe counter-measures.
I recall that in reply to our objections as soldiers,
the following words were spoken: "As long as the
paratrooper or saboteur runs the danger only of being
taken captive, he incurs no risk; in normal
circumstances he risks nothing; we must take action
against this." These were the reasons behind his
thoughts. I was asked several times to express myself on
this subject. General Jodl will also recall this. We did
not know what we, as soldiers, were to do. We could make
no suggestion. If I may sum up briefly, we heard
Hitler's temperamental explosions on this subject almost
every day, but we did nothing, not knowing what we could
do. Hitler declared that this was against the Hague
Convention and illegal, that it was a method of waging
war not envisaged in the Hague Convention and which
could not be foreseen. He said that this was a new war
with which we had to contend and that new
counter-measures would be needed. Then, to make it
short, as I have already testified in the preliminary
investigation, these orders - this order itself and the
well-known instructions, that those who did not carry
out the first order should be punished - were issued in
a concise form and signed by Hitler. They were then
distributed, I believe, by the Chief of the Operations
Staff. I might add that many times the commanders who
received these orders asked questions about how they
were to be applied, particularly in connection with the
threat that they would be punished if they did not carry
them out. The only reply we could make was: "You
know what is in the orders," for we were not in a
position to change these signed orders.
Q.
The prosecution has accused you personally of having
issued the order to kill the English saboteurs captured
in the commando operations at Stavanger. In this
connection I submit to you Documents 498-PS, 508-PS, and
527-PS.
DR. NELTE: This, Mr. President, was
a commando mission in the neighbourhood of Stavanger.
The troops who fell into German hands alive had to be
killed, according to the Fuehrer decree. There was a
remote possibility of interrogating these persons if
that was demanded by military necessity. In this case
the Commander-in-Chief in Norway, General von
Falkenhorst, dealt with the matter. He turned to the
O.K.W., as he has already testified in the minutes of an
interrogation.
Q. Would you make any
statement in this connection?
A. I was
interrogated on this subject, and in the course of the
interrogation, I was confronted with General von
Falkenhorst. As far as I can remember he did not ask me
questions regarding the carrying-out of this order. I
did not know of it. Even the event itself was no longer
in my memory, and I remembered it again only after I had
seen the documents. During the interrogation, I told the
interrogating judge that I had no authority to change
that order; that I could only refer any one concerned to
the order, as such. As regards General Falkenhorst, I
should like to say only what is stated here in the
minutes: "He obviously shelved the questions, and
altered his earlier statements, but did not deny
them." He said, "Keitel did not deny having
had this talk with me but he denied that the subject of
it was what I said."
DR. NELTE: Mr.
President, I can only say that this is a summary of the
interrogation of Falkenhorst, a document which was
submitted by the prosecution without having a document
number.
Q. Have you finished your statement?
A. Yes. I believe that is all I want to say.
THE PRESIDENT: Dr. Nelte, the prosecution
did not put in this document, did it? It has not offered
it in evidence.
DR. NELTE: I believe so,
yes.
THE PRESIDENT: I think they must have
put it to the defendant Keitel in one of his
interrogations, did they not? Isn't that right? That
does not mean that it is put in evidence, because the
interrogation itself, you see, need not be put in
evidence. You must put it in now if you want it to go
in.
DR. NELTE: Mr. President, there is some
error here. This document was put in by the prosecution
here as proof of the assertion that the defendant Keitel
had given the order to kill these paratroopers. I
received the document here.
THE PRESIDENT:
The prosecution will tell me if that is so, but I cannot
think of any document having been put in here that has
not had an exhibit number.
MR. DODD: We have
no recollection of having put it in. Many of these
interrogations did not have document numbers, but of
course, if they were put in, they would have USA or GB
exhibit numbers.
THE PRESIDENT: Well,
perhaps the best way would be for counsel for the
prosecution to verify whether it was read in evidence.
MR. DODD: That will take me a few minutes,
your Honour.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I mean at
your leisure. Would that be a convenient time to break
off for ten minutes?
DR. NELTE: Yes. (A
recess was taken.)
THE PRESIDENT: The
Tribunal will adjourn this afternoon at a quarter to
five. It will then sit again in this Court in closed
session, and it desires that both counsel for the
prosecution and counsel for the defence should be
present then, as it wishes to discuss with counsel on
both sides the best way of avoiding translating
unnecessary documents. There have, as you know, been a
very great number of documents put in and a great burden
has fallen upon the Translating Division. That is the
problem which the Tribunal wishes to discuss in closed
session with counsel for the prosecution and counsel for
the defence. It will therefore, as I say, sit here in
closed session where there is room for all the defence
counsel. That is at five o'clock. (Continuation of the
direct examination of the defendant Keitel.)
BY DR. NELTE:
Q. Do you remember an inquiry
of the Commander-in-Chief, West, in June, 1944 regarding
the treatment of sabotage troops behind the invasion
front? A new situation was created by the invasion, and
therefore by the problem of the commandos.
A. Yes, I remember, since these documents too have been
submitted to me here and there were several documents
concerned. It is true that the Commander-in-Chief, West,
after the landing of Anglo-American forces in North
France, considered that a new situation had arisen with
reference to the Fuehrer Order of 18th October, 1942,
directed against the parachute troops.
An
inquiry was held and General Jodl and I represented the
view of the Commander-in-Chief, West, namely that this
order was not applicable here. Hitler refused to accept
that point of view, and gave certain directives in
reply, which, according to the documents, had at least
two editions; after one had been cancelled as useless,
the Document 551-PS remained as the final version as
approved by the Fuehrer. The reason why I remember so
accurately is because on the occasion of presenting that
reply during the discussion of the situation, this
written appendix was added by General Jodl with
reference to the application of the order in the Italian
theatre also. With that appendix this version, which was
approved and demanded by Hitler, was then sent out to
the Commander-in-Chief, West. Q. In this connection was
the question discussed as to how the active support of
such acts of sabotage by the population could be judged
from the point of view of International Law?
A. Yes, that question arose repeatedly in connection
with the order of 18th October, 1942, and the well-known
leaflet previously discussed. I am of the opinion that,
according to the Hague Regulations relating to Land
Warfare any participation in such sabotage acts by
agents or other adherents of the enemy is a violation of
these regulations. If the population takes part in, aids
or supports such action, or covers the perpetrators -
hides them or helps them in any way - in any form, that,
in my opinion, is clearly expressed in the Hague
Regulations relating to Land Warfare, namely, that the
population must not commit such actions.
Q.
The French Prosecution has submitted a letter Of 3oth
July, 1944, which is Document 537-PS. This document is
concerned with the treatment of members of foreign
military missions caught together with partisans. Do you
know this order?
A. Yes, I do. Yes, I was
interrogated on this Document 537- PS during the
preliminary investigation and I made a statement, which
I will repeat here: It had been reported that attached
to the staffs of these partisans, particularly the
leaders of the Serbian and Yugoslav partisans, there had
been military missions which we were convinced were to
maintain liaison with the States with which we were at
war. This was reported to me and I had been asked what
should be done in the event of such a mission being
captured. When the Fuehrer was informed, he decided to
reject the suggestions of the military authority
concerned, namely, to treat them as prisoners of war,
since according to the directive of 18th October, 1942,
they were to be considered as saboteurs and treated as
such. This document is, therefore, the transmission of
this order which bears my signature.
Q. The
problem of terror flyers and lynch-law has been
mentioned during the examination of Reich Marshal
Goering. I shall confine myself to a few questions which
concern you personally in connection with that problem.
You know what we are concerned with-terror flyers and
their treatment? What was your attitude to this
question?
A. The fact that, starting from a
certain date in the summer of 1944, machine-gun attacks
from aircraft were made against the population has
already been mentioned here. These increased
considerably, with thirty to forty victims on certain
days. As a result Hitler categorically demanded an
adequate ruling on this question. We soldiers were of
the opinion that existing regulations were sufficient,
and that new regulations were unnecessary. The question
of lynch-law was dragged into the problem and the
question of what was meant by the term "terror
flyer." These two questions resulted in the very
large quantity of documents which you all know and which
contain the text of the discussion on these subjects.
Q. I think it will not be necessary to
repeat the details which have already been discussed. In
connection with your responsibility, I am interested in
the words which you have written across one of these
documents. Please, will you explain those?
A. I merely wanted to state, first of all, that I had
suggested, following the lines of the warning issued
when prisoners of war taken by the Germans at Dieppe
were shackled, that a warning should be issued by our
own side, too, in the form of a similar official note
saying that we should make reprisals unless the enemy
commanders stopped the practice of their own accord.
That was turned down as not being a suitable course of
action. And now let us turn to the documents, which are
important to me.
Q. PS-735
A.
There are some notes in handwriting made by Jodl and
myself. That is the record of a report written by me in
the margin which runs as follows: "Courts-martial
won't work"; at least, that was the content. I
wrote that at the time because the question of sentence
by courts-martial came up for discussion, for the reason
that this very document laid down in detail for the
first time what a terror flyer was, and because it
stated that terror attacks were always attacks carried
out from low-flying aircraft. I was led to think that
crews attacking in low-level flights could not,
generally speaking, be captured alive if they crashed,
for there is no possibility of saving oneself with a
parachute from a low-level attack. Therefore, I wrote
that remark in the margin. Furthermore, I considered,
apart from the fact that one could not conduct
proceedings against such a flyer, one would, secondly,
not be able to conclude a satisfactory trial or a
satisfactory investigation if an attack had been carried
out from a considerable height, because no court, in my
opinion, would be able to prove that such a man did have
the intention of attacking those targets which possibly
were hit. Finally, there was one last thought, which was
that in accordance with the rules regarding
court-martial proceedings against prisoners of war, the
enemy State had to be informed through the protecting
power, and three months' grace had to be given during
which the home State could object to the sentence. It
was, therefore, out of the question that, through those
channels and in so short a time, the deterrent results
desired could be achieved. That was really what I meant.
I also wrote another note, and this refers to lynch-law:
It states: "If you allow lynching at all, then you
can hardly lay down rules for it." To that I cannot
say very much, since my conviction is that there is no
possibility of saying under what circumstances such a
method could be regulated or justified, and I am still
of the opinion that rules cannot be laid down for such
proceedings.
Q. But what was your attitude
regarding the question of lynch-law?
A. It
was my point of view that it was a method completely
impossible for us soldiers. One case had been reported
by the Reich Marshal in which he had prohibited any
proceedings against a soldier who had stopped such
actions. I know of no case where soldiers, with
reference to their duty as soldiers, behaved towards a
prisoner of war in any other way than that laid down in
the general regulations. I should also like to state -
and this has not been mentioned yet - that I had a
discussion with Reich Marshal Goering at the Berghof
about the whole question, and he, at that time, quite
clearly agreed with me: we soldiers must reject
lynch-law under any circumstances. I requested him, in
this awkward position in which we found ourselves, to
approach Hitler once more, personally, and to try to
persuade him not to compel us to give or draft an order
of that kind. That was the situation.
Q. We
now come to questions relating to prisoners of war.
A. May I just say finally that an order from
the O.K.W. was never drafted and never issued.
Q. There is hardly any problem in the law of
warfare in which all nations and all people are so
passionately interested as the prisoner-of-war question.
That is why, here too, the prosecution has stressed
particularly those cases which were violations of laws
for prisoners of war, according to the Geneva
Convention, or to International Law in general. Since
the O.K.W., and you as its Chief, were responsible for
prisoner-of-war questions in Germany, I should like to
put the following questions to you: What had been done
in Germany to make all departments and offices of the
Armed Forces acquainted with international agreements
which referred to prisoners of war?
A. There
was a special military manual on that subject, which I
think is available, and which contained all the clauses
in the existing international agreements and the
provisions for carrying them out. That is, I think,
Directive No. 38, which applied to the Army and the
Navy, and also to the Air Force. That was the basis, the
basic order.
Q. How was that put into
practice? Was it the practice to inform those concerned
with such questions or was it sufficient to draw their
attention to the Army directives?
A. Every
department, right down to the smallest unit, had these
instructions and every, soldier, up to a point, was
instructed on them. Apart from that, no further
explanations and regulations were issued at the
beginning of the war.
Q. I am thinking of
the courses of instructions instituted in Vienna for
that particular purpose. Do you know of them? Do you
know that they took place in Vienna?
A. It
is known to me that such matters were the subject of
courses of instruction for those people who were
actually in contact with prisoner-of-war matters ...
they took the form of training courses. Q. Is it,
furthermore, correct that every soldier had a leaflet in
his pay book?
A Yes. That was confirmed by
General Milch the other day, who had one with him.
Q. When were the first instructions regarding
prisoners of war given in your case?
A . As
far as I know, the first instructions appeared after the
beginning of the Polish Campaign in the East, since
every preparatory measure for reception of prisoners of
war had been rejected by Hitler. He had prohibited it.
Afterwards things had to be improvised at very short
notice.
Q. What was ordered?
A.
It was ordered that the three services, the Navy, Army
and the Air Force - the latter only to a limited extent
but particularly the Army - should make appropriate
preparations for camps, guard and whatever was necessary
for the establishment and the organisation of such
services.
Q. Please tell us what were the
functions of the O.K.W. regarding the treatment of
prisoners of war?
A. The principal
instruction was treatment according to rule KGW-38 based
on international agreements; in my opinion it contained
absolutely everything which the people concerned had to
know. Apart from that, no additional instructions were
issued at that time, but the above rule was applied.
Q. I should like to know first of all how
far the O.K.W. had jurisdiction regarding the treatment
of prisoners of war.
A. The O.K.W. was,
shall I say, the ministerial directing department which
had to issue and prepare all basic regulations and
directives concerning these questions. It was entitled
to make sure, by means of inspections and surprise
visits, that the instructions were carried out. In other
words, it was the head office which issued directives
and was entitled to make inspections, but was not in
command of the camps themselves.
Q. Should
one not add the contact with the Foreign Office?
A. Of course, I forgot that. One of the main tasks
of the entire Armed Forces, and therefore of the Navy
and Air Force too, was to communicate with the
protecting powers, through the Foreign Office, and also
to communicate with the International Red Cross and all
agencies interested in the welfare of prisoners of war.
I had forgotten that.
Q. Therefore the
O.K.W. was, generally speaking, the legislator and the
control organ. A. That is correct.
Q. What
did the branches of the Armed Forces have to do?
A. The Navy and the Air Force had camps under
their command, which were restricted to prisoners of war
belonging to their own services; and so did the Army.
But owing to the large numbers belonging to the Army,
their camps were under the deputy commanding generals of
the home front, that is the commanders of the Wehrkreis.
Q. Now, let us take the prisoner-of-war
camps. Who was at the head of such a camp?
A. In the Wehrkreis command there was a commander for
prisoners-of-war affairs in the Wehrkreis concerned and
the camp itself was under the charge of a camp
commandant who had a small staff of officers, among them
an intelligence officer and similar personnel who were
necessary for such matters.
Q. Who was the
superior officer of the commander for prisoner-of-war
affairs in the Wehrkreis?
A. The commander
of the Wehrkreis.
Q. Who was the superior of
the Wehrkreis commander?
A. The Wehrkreis
commanders were under the Commander-in- Chief of the
Home Army and the Reserve, and he in turn under the
Commander-in-Chief of the Army.
THE
PRESIDENT: The Tribunal will adjourn.
(The
Tribunal adjourned until 5th April, 1946, at 10.00
hours.)
Field Marshall Keitel on trial before the US
Tribunal at Nuremberg. He was found guilty by
the US Tribunal and was sentenced to death by
hanging. Keitel's last words on the gallows
were:
'I call on God Almighty to
have mercy on the German people. More than 2
million German soldiers went to their death for
the fatherland before me. I follow now my sons -
all for Germany.'
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'I will willingly give up my life in the expiation demanded by my sentence, if my sacrifice will speed the prosperity of the German people and serve to exonerate the German armed forces from blame. I have only one plea: to be granted a death by firing squad. I hope that those members of the Allied Control Council who have been soldiers will have some understanding for my guilt, which was born of a virtue recognised in every army of the world as an honourable and necessary basis for being a good soldier. Even if I failed to recognise the proper limits that ought to have been set upon this soldierly virtue, at least I do not feel I have therefore forfeited my right to atone for this error by the mode of execution that is the right of the soldier in every other army in the world upon whom sentence of death is pronounced as a soldier.'*
* Field Marshal Keitel's request to be executed by firing squad was rejected by the Allied Control Council for Germany. He was hanged at Nuremberg on 16th October, 1946.
Further details on Keitel's trial and his
history can be sourced through the 'Avalon
Project' (Yale University) at:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Keitel.html
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